If you've been following all of our news stories in regards to Geezer Games 'Devil's Temple - Son of the Kung-Fu Master'; which is an unofficial spin off from the 1980's classic game 'Kung Fu'. Then you'll be excited to learn, as thanks to Geezer Games who gave us the shout out this morning, that Devil's Temple - Son of the Kung-Fu Master has been released and can be either downloaded or purchased as a BIG BOX edition. Yes indeed if you're looking to play a kick ass fighting game from one of the best developers in the Amiga scene, then read on as you are in for a treat.
Set in 1987 you'll fight your way to the Devil's Temple to rescue Lena who's been taken and held hostage by X in revenge for his defeat to your father 3 years ago. The game features brilliantly designed stages with intense arcade Kung Fu action based on the classic Irem games of Kung Fu Master and Vigilante, over 500 frames of animation which have been packed into the game, many different enemy types and bosses to fight, weapon pickups and Easter eggs, full 50 frames per second action and all of this working on a A500 with 0.5mb slow ram (Minimum Configuration) or A1200 and above with enhanced graphics with the AGA chipset.
Credits- Game Programming: Graeme (McGeezer) Cowie
- Artwork: Kristof (TenShu) Romagnoli
- Audio: Ian (Hoffman) Ford, Andrzej (no9) Dobrowloski, Martin (DJ Metune) Erikkson
£19 for a digital download amiga game??!! Insane!
ReplyDeleteIt's not mandatory to buy it. If you don't want it, then don't buy it.
DeleteJust because it's an old platform doesn't mean the developers time and effort should be nigh on free. Seems a bit of a selfish perspective, not to mention he's given plenty to the community for free already.
That seems like your perspective, rather than anyone else being selfish. It's actually good feedback to have. A fan is saying I want the game, but you're charging too much as it's out of step with expectations. All well and good to say you don't have to buy it, but it's for sale and if it doesn't sell well then that's not the problem of the buyer, it's the condition of the product and its perceivable value.
DeleteThis is a fully fledged game created from scratch with a lot going for it and to some it seems expensive, but I've seen Indie games go for more that were not that great! Just the other month I spent £16 on an open world survival and it had less going for it than than this Amiga game and wasn't that good either. If it's too expensive, I'm sure it will come down in price at some point :)
Deletei disagree. This is a triple A; amiga game. Back in the day it would of set ya back £15 - £25. This price seems more than resonable in 2022. twenty quid isnt a lot of money these days. Im off to buy it now in fact.
Delete"£19 for a digital download amiga game??!! Insane!" ,,,Agree..!!...
DeleteIt's the tone and choice of words that makes it come across as selfish.
DeleteNo harm in suggesting it's more than many would be willing to pay if that's a persons opinion, but the way it was expressed is what makes it come across as selfish.
It's more than a little obvious that:
"Perhaps the author should lower the price a little if they want more sales as current price is more than many would be willing to pay" is a *completely* different thing to:
"19 for a digital download Amiga game??!! Insane!".
One is offering an opinion the other is selfish/entitled.
Mate, agreed ... and you've every right to say so
DeleteLooks very, very Vigilante inspired.
ReplyDeleteNo bad thing in my opinion. I quite liked that game.
Looks like a good time, but do I now go and buy Trackmania Turbo which is on sale at a lower price, or do I imagine it's 1990 and pony up for a triple AAA Amiga game? If the dev halves the price on the digital download and the deal will be done.
ReplyDeleteYou buy the Amiga game ofcourse, this goes directly to the developer!
Delete19£ for digital edition?
ReplyDeletehhhmmm
And now imagine I bought it boxed for 40 Eur and have no problem with it!
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DeleteThe game is pure greatness!
ReplyDeleteIts wourth all of the money.
So many thanks to the developer for making a physical copy as well !+++
Thank you for all your thoughts and feedback, can we move away from the comments about price please. As yes to some it's expensive we know that, but to others it's well worth the money especially as how much time and effort has been put into the game. Complaining about the price wont change it any time soon :)
ReplyDeleteSo if I can offer some insights into why the price is set at £19.
ReplyDeleteThe price reflects the amount of effort that has went into the production of Devil's Temple which equates to around 16 months of daily development effort, project management, design and pain staking testing across the plethora of Amiga systems we have today.
The game has been developed to a very high professional standard which is testament to the developers involved who work on the Amiga mainly as a hobby and for the love of the platform.
Now if you think the price is too high, then that is absolutely fine, it's subjective but I have to find a balance, I note that there are other releases that require a much higher spec Amiga and are also more expensive.
Enjoying retro such as the Amiga can be an expensive hobby, unfortunetly we are not back in 1991 and we cannot compare Amiga releases to current mainstream platform releases because the audience is simply much smaller in the Amiga scene (I wish it was different and I would have lowered the price).
Another thing to look at is the equivilent of £19 today back in 1991 was £10. Most Amiga games with a big box back then went for £20/£25 and while this is a digital release you can hopefully see the perspective of time and inflation affecting the price point.
Lastly, all we are just trying to do is bring some new games to old platforms that we love, all of my other games I've developed since 2017 are free to download from my itch page, it's not just about paying for a game that may or may not be highly priced, it's about supporting developers so more nice games can be made.
I hope people can reflect on this when considering buying games for old platforms.
Thank you for that Graeme hopefully that puts things in to perspective :)
DeleteAs an Amiga game developer I can only agree with what Graeme wrote. What's shocking is not the price but the reaction of an Amiga user. If it was a PC or other mainstream computer/console then such a reaction could be justified. However, we are talking about a tiny market of enthusiasts and hobbyists. You can't expect quality games at the price of cheap games from other platforms. Fortunately, a sizable part of our community understands this situation and supports us developers not only with a good word but also with the purchase of games that are created with enormous effort and passion. It's worth to stop for a while and, as Graeme said, reflect on the situation.
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People are free to set whatever price they want for their work. Other people are free to buy it or not buy it. They're also free to express the view that they're not buying it because they feel the price is too high. I was excited to see the release, went to buy it expecting it to be a bit more than the author's previous release (which I think was £3) and was genuinely shocked at the price.
ReplyDeleteNot because £19 is a vast sum of money in itself but because it's so far out of line with the norm for this sort of thing. Hell, I can't remember the last modern console game I paid £19 for, I tend to wait six months until they're going for a tenner. So I 100% support the author's right to make that choice, but I won't be buying it. Which is a shame, because I had money waiting, but that's life.
I also support your right to moderate comments on your own website, while finding it ridiculous that apparently everyone has to be treated as a snowflake who must be protected from hearing anything they don't like or having an argument.
Stevo, if anything I've been pretty lax with the moderation. There's a difference between someone mentioning the price and those being down right disrespectful. The last thing I want is the website's named to be tarnished with game developers and publishers no longer wishing their games to have anything to do with IndieRetroNews because of someone being abusive. Read above, look at how many posts have I allowed whereby people have said " £19 that's insane!! " etc
DeleteI appreciate the lax moderation but I concur 19,- is wayy too much
DeleteAs the boxed editions have now sold out, and it's Halloween, I've lowered the price of Devils Temple digital edition to £10 for the during of the holidays.
ReplyDeleteThat's really kind of you Graeme and people can't complain now! - Can't wait for my boxed copy too! Such a brilliant game :)
DeleteThis looks like fun! Graphics fit perfectly and the music is great as well.
ReplyDeleteThis developer has already given the likes of the brilliant Bomb Jack Beer edition FOC, I also heard that was c15 months of work to produce, so expecting some return is very fair ask of the community IMO. He may well release cheaper or free in 6-12 months time but it’s perfectly reasonable (and broadly supported) to expect a return on a lot of effort first. Great product, tough though (or am I just an old, dithering retro gamer!)
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